Gnome druid build help

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kieranm
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Gnome druid build help

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Returning after a few years away from the server! I've been enjoying playing my level 17 druid recently because I like the utility of casting spells, having a companion, and using the elemental forms for combat. However, I'm thinking of switching from Elf to Gnome for RP purposes and to max on CON, WIS, and INT. I'd like to make more of a casting/shifting druid than anything else and am also hoping to go for Autoquicken III, since druids do not have haste.

Planning on 28 druid to get the autoquickens for levels 1-9, monk for the discipline dump and extra attacks while in elemental form, and rogue for UMD and other skill points.

Questions:
- Do the monk's extra unarmed attacks apply for elemental/wild shapes?
- Am I allowed to make him a forest gnome or are they too rare and reclusive/will that have to be approved by a DM?
- Are ESF in conj and evoc worth it if I'm going to be in and out of shifting?

This is what I'm thinking and I'd be grateful for any feedback! Cheers.

Build summary:Druid 28 / Rogue 1 / Monk 1
Gnome - Gizmo Greenleaf
Alignment - LN
Deity - Baervan Wildwanderer

Str 9 (have an extra point - not sure to put here for extra lbs in bag or cha for RP)
Dex 10
Con 16
Wis 17+7-> 24
Int 14
Cha 8

Pre-Epic: Druid 20
1 Extend Spell
3 SF: Conj
6 Max/Empower spell or Zen archery?
9 SF: Evoc
12 GSF: Conj
15 GSF: Evoc
18 Quicken Spell

Epic: Druid 8 / Rogue 1 / Monk 1
21 Druid 21: Dragon Knight
22 Druid 22
23 Druid 23
24 Druid 24: Armor Skin, ESF: Conj
25 Druid 25
26 Druid 26
27 Druid 27: Autoquicken I
28 Rogue 1: UMD, tumble and other skills
29 Monk 1: ESF: Evoc, Discipline dump
30 Druid 28: Autoquicken II/III

Skills: (192 ranks)
30 Animal Empath
20 Concen
32 Discpline
15 Heal
10 Lore
30 Spellcraft
30 Tumbe
25 UMD
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Re: Gnome druid build help

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I don't think you get UMD with that build.
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Re: Gnome druid build help

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walnutboy wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 9:25 am
I don't think you get UMD with that build.
Sorry, was a typo at the top. Had previously been 1 ranger and 1 rogue instead of including monk.
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Re: Gnome druid build help

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You cannot take an Epic Spell focus on a non-Caster Level iirc.

Also, if you take Epic Dragon Knight on level 21, you will have to deal with the fact that it only lasts Rounds/Level until you pick up ESF: Conjuration
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Re: Gnome druid build help

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Freaxxshow wrote:
Thu Oct 22, 2020 2:44 pm
You cannot take an Epic Spell focus on a non-Caster Level iirc.

Also, if you take Epic Dragon Knight on level 21, you will have to deal with the fact that it only lasts Rounds/Level until you pick up ESF: Conjuration
Ah, okay thanks. I'll have to switch around the Epic feats then, and I think I accidentally kept a bonus feat for Ranger level 1 in there at 29... So, not sure if having 2 extra attacks while shifted is worth losing 2 AC or not. I'm thinking the attacks will be handy.

21: ESF: Conj
24: Dragon Knight, ESF: Evoc
27: AQ I
30: AQ II/III
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